Posted by ... on July 21, 1998 at 17:15:56:

In Reply to: Dangerous Animation club to join ???!!! posted by retort@retort.tot on July 17, 1998 at 21:01:19:

Rebuttal

Rather than to talk, as people always say, talk is cheap, I will say this bluntly. Wait until 1 year after the animation club is up. If your title didn't get cleared, it could be because of nudity, or, it could be that you were importing something that was X rated. BFC has its reasons.
As for complaining about me being the leader, go ahead and take the lead! I don't mind. In fact, I have been looking around but no takers. Wonderful. I think that people expect to see things, and when they happen, they criticise it. Like Return of the Condor Heroes.

The fact is this. I am interested in leaving. You beat the idea down on the club. Fine. You complain that I am the leader, that I am unreliable. I do not even want to try to defend myself. You cannot trust me, fine, I don't even want to be trusted. Anything new?

A few parties would be worried that if this club is formed, it will kill their businesses, or if this happens, I will be overlord. Don't be silly. If I was overlord, you will hate me even more, and that is the last thing I want to do. In fact, I would be more than glad if people who are out there can carry things on. But they complain and sit on their backsides.

A lot of people are worried of the economic crisis. They fuss and fuss and fuss. I agree there is justification to it. So? I am sure at this time, lots of people have a low tolerance level.

You really know what I want to do? In addition to what was written in the newsgroups, I want to make this very clear. People like you and me who are hopeless should stay out of the club management team (if only that was possible for me). We should make way for those younger than us, who have more time and enthusiasm. For all I care of the old-timers, each of us have our own commitments and lives, jobs and so on.

Grow up and listen. That younger generation has the right for a new start. We know a lot of things. But we do not even try. That was the cause of the downfall of the animation club at the Thomson CC. I was too direct, too reckless and still am. But I had initiative and commitment. I was the chairman of the animation club until somebody played politics with me by demoting me. We all have made mistakes. We made them. And yet, I want to try my very best to stop repeating them. I was very close to it when I succeeded in forming a sub-committee under a committee in the community centre. But I realised, it made a living hell of my life.

Therefore, I realised, I must quit. I must leave. No matter what. I must find someone to lead. But who will take over? You? That will be the day. As a friend told me, that would be a miracle. And miracles come at a heavy price, he quoted. Believe me, it was a heavy price for me.

I have regrets. And those do include talking to people, arguing with them. So now, I am not bothered anymore. I only know, the job remains to be finished.

So you tell me: Should I even be the leader? Should I even help the youngsters? Should we continue arguing? Should we like crazed fans?

I don't expect to be trusted, even though I do have people who trust me. I don't expect all to be my friends, though I do have a number of them. I don't expect to have that many friends, because I am bloody hot-tempered, aggressive, offensive and undiplomatic, yet I do have them. I only want this. Lets make our peace and be done with it. The BFC is not out there to kill you. I am not out here to kill you.

Ngai Hoe, thank you for being so generous in allowing this posting up. I apologise for all the mishaps that have been happening. Likewise to Kujaku.

I only have this to say. The way I do things is my only crime. What I do has never been my intent to do harm needlessly. If anybody here wants to insult me, or say anything to dispute this, he can volunteer and take over things if he thinks he is good enough.

The only thing I wonder is that who wants to do it and is prepared to stop backstabbing me. Sean, maybe you might want to try it.

Or whoever who closed down that animation club at Thomson CC and complained can volunteer to take over. All I am concerned is the continuity and the survival of the animation club.

As it is, I have yet to be insulted enough to describe all the atrocities of the fandom here in Singapore, like how to clear past the censors, which company is selling pornographic stuff, what I have in my custody, and so on. Also, how are animation materials from overseas couriered into Singapore.

Next thing is this. Yes, I am aware that some of you have got your titles broken in front of you. That far I know. So I will say this bluntly. Rather than to go against the wind, go along with it. By building your contacts, you could know what titles will clear the BFC and what won't.

One of the is Vampire Miyu. The first episode was.... well, censored. With reason. And when you start understanding what titles wouldn't clear the BFC, you would understand what could clear and what is questionable.

To put it bluntly, importing Nausicaa or Totoro, or Ah My Goddess isn't so difficult.

You fear the Board of Film Censors. I don't. Straight and simple. But rather than to keep it to myself, I would be more than glad to help. But even I can only know so much. Which is why the club must be formed. So that we all can learn what titles can be cleared by the BFC and what cannot be cleared.

You do not have to trust me. But surely you can trust a legal authority like that, can't you? After all, a club MUST comply with the law or it will collapse!

Frankly speaking, why even join the club? Join because you have the interest. Straight and simple. If you are not interested, don't join! It is not like I am forcing you. And it is not like I want to be the leader. Go ahead and take over if you want.

If I left without anyone taking my place, all the effort I have put in would be wasted! The time, the patience, the miseries, would be nothing. It is now something, a club.

Now there is one, you are complaining. When others who have been interested, some are doing something!

I wrote this to clarify things. And this is the last time I will clarify things. Ngai Hoe, you have my permission to remove such future posts that seem to have my writing style. You know those types by now.

Well, that's it! And if you are still interested in rebutting or complaining, just feel free to write into the newsgroup. But I think it is silly. We could use the time to at least guide the youngsters.

And if we still do not have enough people, that is ok. There are bound to be enough overseas people who are interested.


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