Otaking (Otaking@WHYWEB.COM)
Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:59:57 -0800
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: <001c01be4702$9330ace0$17b91a26@skuld> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:59:57 -0800 From: Otaking <Otaking@WHYWEB.COM> Subject: Re: Surprise!!!!!!!!
I TRIED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO THOSE ON THIS LIST THAT IF YOU WANTED TO
DISCUSS THIS DO IT OFF THE LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adminestrator please kill this thread.
>> So it gives ADV the right to overcharge the "true fans"? If the
>> price of the anime goes up, then dub prices have to take the hit. One
>> day, no one will be able to afford subs. Then what will ADV(and the
like)
>> do? They'll be forced to phase out subs and then bring the extra price
>> tag onto the dubs. At this point, neither the "true fans" nor the
>> "dubbies" will be happy.
This is just an extrely Biased opinion I take it you hate ADV and would
perfer to give your money to a company that produces nothing like AnimEigo??
>Sounds like Mixx! Greedy and self-destructive (hopefully).
Nowhere near it. I write reviews for them and (this is my opinion) I feel
that Mixx IS self destructive and it would have been in better hands with
Ron then with Stu. (I know both of them a bit personally)
>> If this is truly their philosophy, then domestic anime has to be
>> the biggest joke of all time. So what if we're getting more titles
>> domesticated? As far as I'm concerned, they're just "raping" the genre.
>While sodomizing the customers as well. I think the Americanization,
changing music, making
>trendy one-liners and catchy American 'don't go there' dialogue is probably
a bigger joke
>than the distribution.
You would perfer revert back to almost no titles at OVER $35 per 30
episode???
>> Tom's always saying that he doesn't like commercial acquisitions
>> because it's "keeping him from getting fansubs". I used to think that
was
>> the wrong attitude(and I still do). But I also don't like the way anime
>> is handled here in the US, putting me in the middle ground.
You could probably make a case blameing Fansubs for those prices as well.
Companies have to piuck up titles before they become Fansubbed therefore
increaseing the amount that is forced to be spent apon accuisition.
>Oh, I know that reasoning would never hold up in court, against a vos
Savant, or the Usenet
>Firebats. It's a completely 100% selfish bias. I recognize that my
selfishness should not be
>used to decide a business policy. However neither should extreme greed
(lousy University
>bookstore).
>
>It's kind of hard to have middle ground on this one because there are
multiple vectors,
>unlike dub vs. sub. There's the LD-only people, the sub hating dubbies,
the people who try
>to justify the prices with "economics," the fansub hypocrites, etc.
>
>> If any of your inside sources are willing to discuss domestic
>> anime politics with me, I'm all ears, because I have yet to hear any
>> plausible excuse of why subs are so overpriced.
Dubs outsell subs over 9 to 1 VERY rare occasions bring this number lower.
>So far your choices are:
>1. A twisted version of supply and demand.
>2. To pay for future acquisitions.
>3. Royalties which most likely do not exist.
>4. Gross, wide-encompassing industry bias.
>5. Extreme greed.
>
>I'm with #5 right now. It's Occam's Razor: sometimes the simplest solution
is the right one.
In this case it's not. Unfortunately it's really 1,2 and 3 all at once
(royalties DO exist).
>I went to the ADV page, and was pretty excited to see Sakura Taisen
advertised, but paying
>$60 for 4 episodes, really, that's immoral and always wrong. Is it coming
out on DVD?
Would you perfer the old days of $35 per 30 minute episode?? bringing the
total up to $140 for the 4 episodes??? How about $65-$70 per Untranslated LD
for 30 minutes. bringing up the total to: about $280. How about an poorly
translated and craply timed 5th generation copy of a show. In all actuallity
we in America are spoiled anime wise. Shoot I just spent $55 plus $22 for
shipping, for the BGC:2040 LD. I still intend to get the series when it
comes out so don't preach to me about prices. We're getting primo stuff. BTW
did you know that the accuisition of Samurai Showdown payed for the
accuisition of Nuku Nuku, Miyuki-Chan in wonderland, and Cutey Honey. So
please concider this thread over.
Rik Wall
http://www.whyweb.com/personal/otaking/
Co-Owner Anime Cafe
Executive Officer of Relations;
BAKA!-Con 1999 http://baka-con.org/