Jose Barragán (devilot@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:46:52 -0400
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Message-ID: <003101bef3e9$949b7c60$64fb4d0c@141149625> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:46:52 -0400 From: Jose Barragán <devilot@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Subject: Re: Petition For Sakura 3>> >I wonder though if that's an isolated incident as he has ALSO said that >> >WD lowers the emotional atmosphere if they feel it's too over the top, >> >or add in places where they think more is needed. He could be talking >> >about titles other than Lunar (which is their flagship title). >> >> >> I confess I never read that particular RGVSega post, so I really can't >> comment in what context he was saying it. > >That's because it could have been the Sony group. It was probably in >response to one of ZFP's posts. Can't quite remember... ZFP can be a total troll at times, so that's probably why I never bothered reading it. He always brings up the same points in discussion again and again. > >> >> >I think that's a crock. You're still going to get the product placement, >> >and the Americanization that you always get. It's like DaveZ said, they >> >have to have those "Classic WD moments". I don't believe Vic can *DO* a >> >preserved translation of anything. >> >> >> Two words: Iron Storm. ;) > >Oh shut up! :P Ah, but this brings up a very interesting point! You see, Iron Storm is devoid of jokes and anachronistic humor, because it takes place very close in relationship with our time period, just like the Sakura Taisen games do. Now, one of my arguments was that because of the type of game Sakura Taisen is, and where/when it takes place, Vic wouldn't include anachronistic humor. In fact, here's his response to my question as to whether the translation would be 'straight' or full of WD rewrites: "Considering that the games we've done thus far have little relationship to a definite place and timein our reality, and Sakura Taisen DOES have a tremendous relationship to place and time relevant to our reality, I would have to say that were we to do Sakura Taisen, the inherent Asian flavor would be retained. It's intrinsic to the game/story. There have been a number of games considered in the last year or so that fall into this category. All were passed on for one reason or another, but if one does come to fruition, most will be pleasantly surprised by the overall integrity of the work." You probably won't think so, but I personally found his reply really reassuring and feel that it backs up my theory. If the 'inherent Asian flavor will be retained', that means, IMO, that Vic will strive to keep cultural references and Japanese social status things intact (who knows, Iris might have called Oogami "Oniichan" or "Big brother" in the US version had it ever come about, with explanatory text regarding her name for him in the instruction manual or something.) >> Zach Meston did Albert Odyssey a _favor_. That game was _extremely_ >> mediocre. The humorous translation made the game a lot of fun to play. >> Also, I think it's the worst offender as far as changes in WD translations >> go. > >Eh. Lunar 2 probably still surpasses it. I mean, even Vic admits he went >WAY overboard. Yes, I know, I've played it. You'll be happy to know that all political references will be scrapped for the PSX remake, and Vic's said that no WD games will ever have political jokes again. >I mean, all of the above is pretty much conceded to by Vic as well.... > >None of this stopped us from eventually getting our teeth kicked in by >his typical knee-jerk reaction. Considering how often he gets bashed, I'm actually just surprised he still posts regularly in the newsgroups. ;) But now this discussions is really veering of Sakura Taisen and towards Working Designs, making it pretty much totally off-topic...