Re: ADV release date
Paul J Chi (paulchi@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU)
Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:41:24 -0500
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:41:24 -0500
From: Paul J Chi <paulchi@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject: Re: ADV release date
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From: "John Hokanson Jr."
To: "Sakura Taisen Mailing List"
Subject: RE: ADV release date
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:55:03 -0700
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> [mailto:SAKURATAISEN-LIST@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of
> terrence huey
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:31 PM
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> Subject: Re: ADV release date
>
> >
> > That is your opinion!!
>
> This is NOT my opinion! My opinion is that I hate ADV and I would be very
> happy if their office burned down to the ground.
>
> The above is a fact.
The above is what you percieve to be a fact. Hate is very strong word. You
might choose to use "controversial" because they can't be too hated if the
rake in the most dough. I think ADV might get the most flak publicly, but
I attribute that to the fact that they also pick up very high profile
titles.
I have to admit to myself that when I rant about WD, I'm in the minority.
> There are only two companies out there that people
> consistently complain about, and taken a step further, will not support at
> all. One is Viz(well, perhaps US Manga too). But I don't think Viz is
> doing any harm since they're mainly doing Ranma and those who care for
> Ranma will buy it, those who don't won't. But the other is definitely AD
> Visions. How many "Boycott ADV" threads have I seen in NGs?
And how many people that started those threads were quickly flamed into
oblivion? Nearly all of them.
Hell, even *I* the great opponent of Working Designs, and
obsessive-compulsive
complainer had to admit that some of reasoning behind the anti-ADV arguments
were falty.
> Or how about
> that article I read somewhere(I think it was anipike) saying that a lot of
> people were complaining about ADV, and others were complaining about
> AnimEigo, but which company do people actually hate? It was ADV because
> it is ADV that actually pisses off the fans, and AE in retrospect, tries
> to appeal only to the fans.
>
That is true, however as long as ADV rakes in the good titles, very few will
give a **** Terrence. Believe me, I speak from experience.
> You wanna know what ADV does wrong? You own an anime shop, I believe, am
> I correct?
>
> 1) How good quality are those ADV tapes you get? It is from my
> experience that ADV tapes are of considerably less quality than those put
> out by other companies. I am talking about the physical tapes themselves.
> ADV tapes tend to have audio dropouts, fuzzy video, and wear out faster
> than the other companies.
>
A lot of people say this, but I haven't had any go bad on me yet. I guess
we'll have to wait and see...
Personally, if I ever get money, I'm going to get DVDs anyways, because
all magnetic media breaks down eventually.
> 2) What about extras? Let's see... AnimEigo has box sets for people as
> collector's items. Pioneer has first pressings that usually come with
> stickers, cards, etc. And before last year, they stuck tapes in clamshell
> cases for subbed anime so it was some compensation for paying extra for
> subs. Anime Village also has box sets(nicely done, as well as beautiful
> clamshell cases for those too). CPM has box sets too. ADV releases?
> Just the normal flimsy cardboard material.
ADV has boxsets I believe. They had a special where you could get all of
Blueseed
for $100.
>
> 3) Prices? Yes, I am just thrilled to know that Yuna OAV 1+2 go for $30
> each if you're a sub fan, yet is $15 for both of them dubbed. $60 vs $15?
> Am I the only one who is bothered by this? This is just the extreme case,
> but normally the dub/sub gap is $10 with ADV(as opposed to $5 for other
> companies or no gap at all some cases).
Now this I agree. It's disguting. I even fought Doan over this But there's a
way around that. I can give you a place that sell 'em at much lower prices.
The gap will still be there you realize, but if you want the titles that
badly
you don't have to boycott. You should really only boycott when the company's
product absolutely won't satisfy you in the slightest bit.
>
>
>
> 5) Translations? Check out Slayers the Motion Picture. Subtitled,
> dubbed, both have many inside jokes about other ADV-licensed titles. If
> you were expecting a faithful translation of the Japanese version, well,
> you won't get it. I dont' remember which was changed more, but both
> subbed and dubbed had their script altered to suit ADV's purposes.
>
Well, if both were altered, than yeah....that does suck. You have my
blessings
to take rake them over hot coals for that. "^_^"