Re: ADV release date
Brad Tierney (bradstar@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:40:29 -0400
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:40:29 -0400
From: Brad Tierney <bradstar@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: ADV release date
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul J Chi
To: SAKURATAISEN-LIST@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU
Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: ADV release date
>From John Hokanson Jr., with expletive deleted.
>
>
>----------------- Original message (ID=B524B02F) (130
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>From: "John Hokanson Jr."
>To: "Sakura Taisen Mailing List"
>Subject: RE: ADV release date
>Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:55:03 -0700
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sakura Taisen Mailing List
>> [mailto:SAKURATAISEN-LIST@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of
>> terrence huey
>> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:31 PM
>> To: SAKURATAISEN-LIST@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU
>> Subject: Re: ADV release date
>>
>> >
>> > That is your opinion!!
>>
>> This is NOT my opinion! My opinion is that I hate ADV and I would be
very
>> happy if their office burned down to the ground.
>>
>> The above is a fact.
>
>The above is what you percieve to be a fact. Hate is very strong word. You
>might choose to use "controversial" because they can't be too hated if the
>rake in the most dough. I think ADV might get the most flak publicly, but
>I attribute that to the fact that they also pick up very high profile
>titles.
>I have to admit to myself that when I rant about WD, I'm in the minority.
>
>> There are only two companies out there that people
>> consistently complain about, and taken a step further, will not support
at
>> all. One is Viz(well, perhaps US Manga too). But I don't think Viz is
>> doing any harm since they're mainly doing Ranma and those who care for
>> Ranma will buy it, those who don't won't. But the other is definitely AD
>> Visions. How many "Boycott ADV" threads have I seen in NGs?
>
>And how many people that started those threads were quickly flamed into
>oblivion? Nearly all of them.
>
>Hell, even *I* the great opponent of Working Designs, and
>obsessive-compulsive
>complainer had to admit that some of reasoning behind the anti-ADV
arguments
>were falty.
>
>> Or how about
>> that article I read somewhere(I think it was anipike) saying that a lot
of
>> people were complaining about ADV, and others were complaining about
>> AnimEigo, but which company do people actually hate? It was ADV because
>> it is ADV that actually pisses off the fans, and AE in retrospect, tries
>> to appeal only to the fans.
>>
>
>That is true, however as long as ADV rakes in the good titles, very few
will
>give a **** Terrence. Believe me, I speak from experience.
>
>> You wanna know what ADV does wrong? You own an anime shop, I believe, am
>> I correct?
>>
>> 1) How good quality are those ADV tapes you get? It is from my
>> experience that ADV tapes are of considerably less quality than those put
>> out by other companies. I am talking about the physical tapes
themselves.
>> ADV tapes tend to have audio dropouts, fuzzy video, and wear out faster
>> than the other companies.
>>
>
>A lot of people say this, but I haven't had any go bad on me yet. I guess
>we'll have to wait and see...
>
>Personally, if I ever get money, I'm going to get DVDs anyways, because
>all magnetic media breaks down eventually.
>
>> 2) What about extras? Let's see... AnimEigo has box sets for people as
>> collector's items. Pioneer has first pressings that usually come with
>> stickers, cards, etc. And before last year, they stuck tapes in
clamshell
>> cases for subbed anime so it was some compensation for paying extra for
>> subs. Anime Village also has box sets(nicely done, as well as beautiful
>> clamshell cases for those too). CPM has box sets too. ADV releases?
>> Just the normal flimsy cardboard material.
>
>ADV has boxsets I believe. They had a special where you could get all of
>Blueseed
>for $100.
>
>>
>> 3) Prices? Yes, I am just thrilled to know that Yuna OAV 1+2 go for $30
>> each if you're a sub fan, yet is $15 for both of them dubbed. $60 vs
$15?
>> Am I the only one who is bothered by this? This is just the extreme
case,
>> but normally the dub/sub gap is $10 with ADV(as opposed to $5 for other
>> companies or no gap at all some cases).
>
>Now this I agree. It's disguting. I even fought Doan over this But there's
a
>way around that. I can give you a place that sell 'em at much lower prices.
>The gap will still be there you realize, but if you want the titles that
>badly
>you don't have to boycott. You should really only boycott when the
company's
>product absolutely won't satisfy you in the slightest bit.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> 5) Translations? Check out Slayers the Motion Picture. Subtitled,
>> dubbed, both have many inside jokes about other ADV-licensed titles. If
>> you were expecting a faithful translation of the Japanese version, well,
>> you won't get it. I dont' remember which was changed more, but both
>> subbed and dubbed had their script altered to suit ADV's purposes.
>>
>
>
>
>Well, if both were altered, than yeah....that does suck. You have my
>blessings
>to take rake them over hot coals for that. "^_^"
I really have no problem with ADV films, I think that the company could be
better and that they could do better thigns but honestly I don't think
everyone should be arguing over the point it's getting to the point where I
don't even *want* to reply to any messages on this mailing list because
people are just yelling at each other over stupid things, regardless of what
someone thinks of the company it's their own opinion accept it and move on,
from,
Sara