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A light month, mail-wise. I may have to prod you folks into writing more. :-)
I have to agree with you about how stupid some people can be at showings
of anime. I'm a member of the Japanese Animation Club of Victoria
(that's in British Columbia), and we often have members who continuously
talk during meetings, although it has improved in the last few months.
The laughing is usually in the correct places, but I've seen people
laugh at the most inappropriate moments. However, there was one moment
that I actually joined in with the crowd with cheering, and that was
when we finished watching The Tale of Genji. It's a literary classic,
but it's highly inappropriate to show at a 12 hour marathon. It doesn't
appeal to the average anime fan, that's for sure. That's the only time
when the disruptions in the audience were more interesting than the
anime.
Jay Dee Archer
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http://jupiterknight.dragonfire.net/anime/
jarcher@direct.ca
Here's my 'plea' section... One, I soooo want a 'What Panties Am I Wearing Today'
prog like in Blue Seed... not that I have some sort of Momiji panty fetish or
anything, but it was quite humorous... Also, could someone tell me what's the deal
with Minnie May from Gunsmith Cats? I swear, there's something not kosher with
the explanation that she ran into some 'bad drugs' in Chinatown, which is why
she's so underdeveloped..
And as a side note, do you hope that Princess Monomoke fails as much as I do? No,
I'm not one of these "Anime is for the true Otaku" people. It's just that when I
tell people where I work why the heck there's a bunch of people with big eyes on
my computer screen all the time, I either get a "Oh, you mean Sailor Moon", or
someone thinking that it's something to do with Disney.
I'm sick and tired of the Disneyfication of America, and if Disney starts releasing
popular Anime, you might as well consider most other anime companies out of
business, because Disney can and will outbid them all. And it will go from Anime,
to Disney. It's bad enough that Disney has been using a more and more Anime style
but when Joe Public starts thinking that ALL Anime is Disney, the true fan has
lost.
Imagine Ranma 1/2 dubbed by Disney? Do we really need to hear Jim Carrey doing the
voice of Ranma, and George Wendt as Genma? Some Anime fans will relish in the
exposure of Princess Monomoke, but I'm afraid that it may be the beginning of the
end of the Anime we've all grown to love...
Erik Rug...
rocketboy@subzero.iceinet.com
Boy, Erik, I don't know where to begin. I'm no fan of Disney. Save for the Pixar features,
which I adore, and Aladdin, which I sat through with a friend's kids, I haven't seen a
Disney animated feature in over ten years. Seeing the previews on television is enough to turn
me off. And I get sick of fast food restaurants "celebrating" the release of the latest
eighty-minute cartoon, like you have to see it or you're missing out on history.
Nevertheless, I desperately want Princess Mononoke to make Miramax a fortune. Why?
Because Disney's not stupid. They'll look at the film, stunned, and say "Hey! This movie has
no singing! No cutesy-poo talking inanimate objects! It has a mature, intelligent plot that
appeals to non-children! And it sells!!" Eventually, Disney will take their vast
store of resources and animation knowledge and use it to create the type of animated movie we
want to see, one that's actually aimed at a post-pubescent audience. Disney won't change anime
for the worse. Anime will change Disney for the better.
As for Disney getting into the anime licensing business and competing with ADV, I don't see
that happening anytime soon. Sure, they could outbid anyone, but that wouldn't mean they could
sell any more copies. If you bid high, it's harder to make a profit, and that's the name of the
game. If Disney did get into the anime business, I would expect them to set up a new label to do
it. The Disney name means a specific type of animation to the American audience, and you can't
turn anime into that kind of animation no matter how much you edit it.
And would I want to see Disney dub Ranma ½? If they could do as good a job as
they did for Kiki's Delivery Service, I'd say "go for it". Sure, they get Hollywood
talent, but they get Hollywood talent that fits. Considering the low regard in which
the average dub actor is held by the fans, would that be a bad thing?
So to sum up, despite everything we dislike about Disney, I really don't see them posing any
threat to anime at all.
In reading your Last Exit for September, I noticed your comments
regarding webmasters who claim certain images as 'theirs'. As someone
who actually does this quite frequently, I'd like to explain our side,
if that's alright. ^^;
While the images themselves are most certainly copyrighted to the
respective companies, webmasters tend to act protectively towards things
they have personally scanned, screencapped, etc. simply because of the
insane amount of work involved in getting these images to digital form.
I run an image gallery with well over 200 images, and the labor that
went into scanning, editing, and cleaning up those images totals well
over 48 hours. My scanner is dying a slow, painful death due to my
efforts. Labor aside, after spending a couple hundred dollars on
artbooks and equipment, it's a little more than irritating to find your
entire image gallery, once unique, on someone else's server as a part of
someone else's webpage.
So many sites are the exact same junk over and over again, we'd just
like to have something that is ours and special. When people go
right-click happy and steal entire image galleries, that uniqueness is
taken away. That's what we're trying to prevent.
I hope this clears up the issue a little for people who think we're all
stingy jerks. ^^;
Thanks for your time. (^-^)
~ryuuen lmaclean@ucsd.edu
http://come.to/battousai/
For more opinions on scan copying read on...
You commented on how images scanned from, e.g, art books, aren't the site
owner's property anyway, so why should they say 'please don't steal them!'?
I think what they really mean is that it took quite a lot of time, effort,
and disk space to get them onto the computer, so please don't take credit
for being the one to scan them if you're not?
I do have a website, and I've noticed that in another Yu Yu Hakusho picture
gallery they literally took the pictures that were displayed on my page
frame for frame. I considered emailing the site owner about this, since I
DID say if you were going to use them, please give credit where it's due,
but decided that if it didn't bother him in the first place to use them, it
probably wouldn't bother him any more if I flamed him about it.
The thing is, my source was common to everyone. I mean, anyone with access
to YYH VCDs or tapes could easily take the captures, but the word is COULD.
When someone actually takes the time and effort required to scan them (and
in my case also convert them from BMPs to JPGs), it's a bit annoying when
someone just assumes it doesn't matter because you don't OWN the pictures
anyway, and puts them on their own page.
The pictures DO belong to the actual artists, of course, and most people do
put in Disclaimers, but without the Internet, I think many fandoms all over
the world would not have grown so much. Without the people who scan in the
images, many would not discover anime/manga, or without the images wouldn't
deem it worthy to spend money on.
I know that if there's only one real original source, you can only get so
many different scans of the same thing. For example if I scanned in one of
my YYH CD covers, and someone else with exactly the same CD also scanned it
and put it on their page, I couldn't fault them, because, well, they scanned
it themselves. The problem comes when you can't tell which is the original
and which is the simply downloaded copy-pasted sites. That's a question of
trust, I suppose, and that's why people start to get paranoid and say,
'Please don't 'steal' my images!' Because everyone wants their site to be in
some way different to the other ones, original, but if it's a picture
gallery (ESPECIALLY if it's a picture gallery), even though you didn't draw
it yourself, you might pride yourself in having the most scans, or the most
obscure ones, etc. Usually, if there is a whole group of fans who
communicate (e.g. via a ML) they will KNOW which is the original site and
which is the copy.
Now you might ask how I know that this aforementioned person 'nicked' my
images? Well, if it were 3 or 4 frames, I might say it's a coincidence, but
a few dozen? (And I KNOW these frames really well) and a pencilboard that I
had never formerly seen floating around on the web before until I scanned
it? Now I don't mind people using 'my' images, as long as they give credit
that I was the one who originally scanned that particular image, anyway. It
encourages visitors to your page, and subsequently increases feedback. Word
of mouth is always the best form of advertising, I feel.
Appleby-chan
appleby_chan@hotmail.com
www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Pagoda/5984
And another quick comment on the issue:
Aloha, Ryan!
This "don't steal my 'stuff'" has been going even before web pages. I
remember back in old days of BBSes when one SysOp got mad at his users for
downloading scans he posted on the BBS and uploaded them to others.
---
Wendell @ animatsuri@dm.net
http://limepub.com
I think I see where the site owners are coming from. It's not as much a feeling of ownership as
a wish not to be taken for granted. Okay, that makes sense, as long as permission to use the
images is normally given when requested. If the images are held back, then I think we get back
to the pretension of ownership.
Thus endeth the October column. See y'all next month!
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